Trish Glowacki

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Trish
I thought, how could I honor my beautiful boy who, had not yet declared his major in college but was leaning toward, drama? As I said, you know, I’m going to write a play based on his story. So I wrote and had some co-writers, and a dear friend co-wrote the music with me. So we wrote a short film musical about prescription medicine misuse titled warning, take Only as directed.

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Claudia
Welcome back to shift happens. In today’s episode, I’m in conversation with producer and screenwriter Trish Glowacki. Trish shares her journey, founding the Glow media project and its work on youth mental health awareness. Trish founded the Glow media project after losing her son Charlie to an accidental overdose. Creating a musical films and resources in his honor on youth, mental health topics.

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Claudia
Mental health literacy is a major focus of her organization’s work throughout the United States. Glow media works with schools, educators, parents, and students alike. Trish story is an incredible testament to the strength one can find and loss, and how to shift your life’s purpose and service to others. Please check my show notes for her website and links to her films and resources.

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Claudia
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Claudia
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Claudia
Welcome to disclosure. Key to my podcast shift happens. We are talking about pivotal moments and turning points in life, and we’ve met through our mutual friend, Monica hot and Rot in New York, who was so kind to host a dinner party for you to share information about your work, the Glow Media project. And, you shared with me a little bit, in your guest intake form about the tragic loss you’ve experienced that sent you on a journey.

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Claudia
But before we get there, I actually wanted to ask you, what is your current state of mind now?

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Trish
Now, in this very moment. I am hopeful. Spring is here. Going on vacation later this week.

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Claudia
Oh. Where are you going to?

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Trish
I’m going down to visit my mother in Georgia for a few days and then to a retreat. Sort of a wellness retreat for a week.

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Claudia
Oh, nice.

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Trish
Very much looking forward to kind of a reset. Healthy eating, clean eating. Lots of exercise. No drinking. Just a lovely.

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Claudia
I mean, we are, after all, in fasting. Fasting time.

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Trish
We are. It is lent, correct?

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Claudia
Yes, it is slender this lent. Okay, lovely. What does perfect happiness look like to you?

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Trish
Oh, now that’s that’s a I. I don’t think there’s an answer for that. There’s nothing’s perfect. Claudia. Come on. Yeah. I, I know what happiness looks like. I don’t know what perfect happiness looks like.

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Claudia
Yeah. Good point.

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Trish
For me, happiness is, Feeling settled, feeling loved, being able to give and receive love and, just being content with myself. Yeah.

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Claudia
What would your younger self say if she’d see you today?

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Trish
Oh. What happened? You’re so old.

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Claudia
Oh, no.

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Trish
That’s what like.

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Claudia
I mean, it’s life.

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Trish
How about how much younger a child or mid 20s?

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Claudia
Yeah. Whatever comes to mind? Yeah.

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Trish
I’ll. I’ll say as a young mother, I had, I would say to me, now, I don’t know how you did it. I don’t know how you did it, how you are still here and still able to to be happy. Because I’ve had a lot of loss in my life.

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Trish

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Claudia
You had a lot of loss and you transformed that in giving. So much to so many through your work and your writing. And so I want to move to the global media project, the awareness that you have been raising on mental health, mental health literacy. It’s so crucial and I feel it’s it gets even more crucial day by day the awareness around this.

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Claudia
So yeah, maybe you would like to share a little bit of your journey that’s brought to you where you are now.

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Trish
Happy to share my story. In fact, I just I just completed an application for a, a grant, a grant application for the AARP. And one of their questions was how how does your being over 50? How how did that help you achieve your goals. And so let me, let me back up from, from there.

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Trish
In 2011, my 20 year old son Charlie died of, accidental OxyContin overdose. So he was one week shy of his 21st birthday, and he’d had a he’d had a rocky road, in, in years leading up to his death. He’d struggled with anxiety, depression and substance misuse. But at the time of his death, he was, we all thought, doing very well.

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Trish
He was back in school. His advisors, his teachers all loved him. And and we were hopeful. We’ve we’ve gone through it. He’s gone through it. He’s coming out the other side, and all is right with the world. But it wasn’t, And when he died, he his his death, really took a toll on our nuclear family.

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Trish
Yeah. His older brother, really kind of spiraled into a deep depression and, again, substance misuse and we had to send him to, to rehab. My husband and I divorced. I guess it’s not that uncommon for people who have lost a child, for relationships to break up. Not that we blamed each other, I.

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Trish
I don’t know what it was. We just grew apart and there was a whole

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Claudia

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Trish
My youngest at the time was, freshman in college and hit her very very hard. She was, she had a bad depression. Second semester. Fortunately she had a lot of support and she was able to get through it. And, and my older son got through his journey as well. And both of my surviving children are are thriving right now.

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Trish
Good jobs. My eldest works with his father, and my daughter is an emergency room doctor in Philadelphia. So kind of an intense. Both. Yes. Workaholics. Anyway, when Charlie died, I had been in the middle of writing a memoir about my my boys, both of my boys, and their learning differences and their struggles with, anxiety and depression.

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Trish
And I, you know, everything changed when he died, and I thought, how could I honor my beautiful boy who, had not yet declared his major in college but was leaning toward, drama. And as I said, you know, I’m going to write a play based on his story. So I wrote and had had some co-writers and, a dear friend co-wrote the music with me.

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Trish
So we wrote a short film musical about prescription medicine misuse titled warning, Take only as directed. Oh yeah. And it was, a very, very powerful film. It was very well received. And in touring, the film around the country, the most often asked question by educators was, what else do you have? We haven’t seen anything like this in years.

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Trish
Please give us some something else. I don’t have anything else. So we.

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Claudia
And that was. That was around ten years ago.

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Trish
That was around ten years ago. Yeah. The first film came out in 2014. Yeah. So yes, we decided to incorporate. So I in 2016 we founded the Globe Media Project, in an effort to create a short library of films addressing various mental health topics affecting youth today. And, to date, well, we just started pre-production on our ninth, our ninth short film.

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Claudia
Wow.

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Trish
So, yeah, it’s it’s that’s amazing. It’s great.

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Claudia
And to find the strength because it’s a lot of work. Yeah, it it took a lot of work. And it’s it’s a tough topic right.

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Trish
Yes. Mental health is really. And it’s so broad.

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Claudia
And so broad. Yeah, exactly.

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Trish
Yeah. So, so our library of shorts, we have, you know, we’ll have nine films, this year and they range in topics from substance misuse to eating disorders to, bipolar disorder, anxiety, depression. Suicide, you name it. We have it. Our latest film, the one we’re shooting in April. I’m sorry. May. It is about obsessive compulsive disorder.

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Trish
So we get we get pretty granular it in our films and and then the we have a curriculum writing team and we collaborate with, third party experts in the field of whatever topic we are discussing. Because I’m, I’m not a doctor. I’m not an expert. I’m a person with lived experience. So we have psychiatrists and psychologists on staff, on board advisory boards.

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Trish
And we collaborate with the best and brightest to make sure that our films address the particular topic accurately and, thoughtfully and carefully.

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Claudia
And you have young actors in it or.

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Trish
Yes. Yes.

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Claudia
How do you recruit your teams?

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Trish
Well, we have open casting calls, so I, have a wonderful team I’m working with presently. They’re based in, Los Angeles. Yeah. My past two teams have been in L.A., started doing the films here in Washington, D.C., where I’m based and did four here, five here. We did five here. But the, the last four, we’ve done all out in Los Angeles and, it’s just a little more streamlined out there.

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Trish
Yeah.

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Claudia
So fantastic. And, so do you take the films and you go to schools or do schools approach you because as you said, after the first, production of the musical, they’ve said to you, do you have more? So how is this flow going?

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Trish
Yeah. Well, it’s it’s not easy. I can tell you that much, especially right now in the current climate, with the elimination of Dei in schools, mental health sadly gets lumped in with that. So, so right now, it’s very challenging. It’s all about marketing. We have a website and our resources, our films and our guides are all free of charge.

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Trish
So there’s no impediment for a school or a youth focused organization or, you know, a family. You know, you could go to the club media website and say, oh, I have a friend with a child who’s struggling with X. Let me see if there’s anything in this library that I could send to them. And you can just right there on the website, download the film, take a look, follow the guide.

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Trish
We also have partnerships with a couple of educational streaming services, one being Discovery Education, which most people have heard of. They picked up our first film, Morning Take only as directed and have used it as a cornerstone of their, what they call Red Ribbon Week programing. That’s a week in October, that, focuses on prescription medicine misuse.

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Trish
So, discovery is, you know, over 50% of the schools nationwide. So to date we have I think we’re up over 3 million views of warning. Wow. Take a look as directed. Which is it. Interview is is a classroom. So that’s that’s pretty great. The other part all of.

00:15:09:09 – 00:15:12:07
Claudia
You as a as an entire classroom.

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Trish
Yeah. One view on the because who knows. Yeah. I mean, it could be one person. It could be 30. It depends on who’s showing it. The some of the metrics are hard to measure. So we know the clicks. We just don’t know how many eyes are on each click. Because I could be showing it in an auditorium with 400 people and it’s sort of it’s hard to gauge, but we do, we do surveys after every screening that, that I do in person, and we ask educators or whoever is showing the film to please fill out the survey on the website so that we know if the film is effective.

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Trish
And we also ask for feature topics.

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Claudia
Yeah. And the younger students that view your films when you are there, what is what is the feedback or what is the reaction? Are they shy in approaching you?

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Trish
Right.

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Claudia
Well, tragic loss and his own story or. Yeah. Yeah. How?

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Trish
It varies.

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Claudia
So sensitive.

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Trish
It’s so sensitive. And it is it. Every single class is different. I have found and a large group setting is different from a small classroom setting. So it’s it really runs the gamut. As far as students. But I remember one screening in particular, I was at an all boys school, and there were about 200 boys there, and I believe it was the eighth, ninth and 10th grades of the school.

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Trish
It wasn’t 200 people, so it was probably 100. But anyway, these boys, they were really cool and they they didn’t think they needed anything, and they certainly didn’t want to see something that had music in it that was written by some old lady or her friends, and they they were cute. The. During the Q&A, one young man said, I really like that song in the car.

00:17:21:12 – 00:17:48:10
Trish
Why? Why did they have to sing that? And someone else chimed in, yeah, that one was cheesy. Come on. Then someone else said, yeah, but I like the one in the in the middle where they’re doing the the animation with the pills and everything. And so my point of bringing that up is whether they loved it or hated it, they watched it and they paid attention and then they got something out of it.

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Trish
I really you know, as far as, oh, it was a fabulous film and won awards. I don’t care about that. I just want the message to get through. Yeah. To the to the young people and to their families and their educators.

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Claudia
Yeah.

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Trish
Did I talk about the student advisory board you talked about have having student years?

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Claudia
Yeah.

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Trish
So we don’t always have student actors and, but we do have a student advisory board, and. Yes, which is comprised of young people, middle through high school and college. And that has been wonderful feedback for we grown ups in the room because we did a scriptwriting competition. The winner of that competition. Her winning script is about OCD, and that’s the one we’ll be doing in, in, May, but we had the student advisory board review the top five submissions.

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Trish
I guess we had we had over 75 submissions, so I wasn’t going to ask them to read every single one. But, we my closest colleague, my chief operating officer, and I both thought that a script about anxiety. Actually, no, it was about depression. General depression. It was a little too general. And the young people, they they picked the OCD in me.

00:19:19:19 – 00:19:47:16
Trish
That was the number one choice. The second was a what about self-harm? And, the third was about a high school athlete who becomes injured and loses his or her, opportunity to go play, you know, on a scholarship. So I guess so we thought to do something general. And these kids are like, we know a lot about depression that we want to get.

00:19:47:18 – 00:19:53:15
Trish
We want to get granular. We want to do these specific things. And they were so.

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Claudia

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Trish
It was so smart. They they knew everything was like wow okay. Well you learned something. We have to listen to the young people. They know what they want. They know what they don’t want. And they know what they need.

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Claudia
Yeah.

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Trish
It’s very.

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Claudia
Oppressive. They know best what they need. Of course they do. So. And this will have its opening night in May.

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Trish
No. We’re filming in May.

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Claudia
So filming.

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Trish
And then. Then we have a couple of months of post-production. Yeah. A probably September.

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Claudia
Yeah. Yeah. So. And throughout these, these years of being immersed in your work and, you know, pushing the awareness for mental health, youth, mental health forward, it was always nurtured by honoring your son. Your son. Yes.

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Trish
Yeah, absolutely. He’s on my shoulder right now. I know he is.

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Claudia
Yeah.

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Trish
And keep going, mom, you can do it. There was a period of time where I wanted to stop. I’ve lost my sister. I don’t know if I mentioned this on her last call. I lost my sister to suicide seven years ago.

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Claudia
I’m so sorry.

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Trish
And that was. That was rough. Came out of the blue and I just wanted to stop everything like okay, let’s take a step back. And, I couldn’t, I couldn’t do what I do every day anymore. I was too sad and I, I had, I had gotten through the loss of my son by powering through in an effort to honor his memory.

00:21:37:13 – 00:21:41:16
Trish
But then with when my sister died, I was like,

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Claudia
Nothing left.

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Trish
Nothing left. So I did I did turn to a lot of colleagues for advice. And one woman in particular, her son, had been in my class in college, and he had died of Aids in 88. I believe. She had started a nonprofit organization to honor his memory and to raise awareness about Aids, and it morphed into mental health.

00:22:08:18 – 00:22:35:13
Trish
Etc.. So I called Marty. I said, I think I need to stop, and she said, no, you don’t, you can’t. You’ve come too far. You have a powerful message. You’ve done incredible things with that message and you have a lot left. What’s your sister on your other shoulder and soldier on. Okay. Yeah.

00:22:35:15 – 00:22:37:10
Claudia
But we need those friends right.

00:22:37:12 – 00:22:52:09
Trish
We need these friends and I needed to bounce it off of these friends. Because if if even one friend had said, oh, yeah, you need a break, you could just stop. I would have.

00:22:52:11 – 00:22:54:02
Claudia
But you didn’t.

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Trish
I didn’t.

00:22:55:03 – 00:22:56:03
Claudia
I didn’t I didn’t.

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Trish
Yeah. And I think.

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Claudia
That’s so it’s.

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Trish
Making a difference I think we need more mental health education now. Now more that.

00:23:03:16 – 00:23:17:01
Claudia
Yes. Yes. And that’s what I wanted to ask you because you know, of the current climate and all the changes, how do you think you can or schools can still continue to incorporate, you know, you know, we’re, you know, we’re.

00:23:17:01 – 00:23:51:00
Trish
Becoming we’re becoming creative. Changing wording. We’re focused more on mental health literacy. What. So for instance, the new film is going to be I think pretty easy sell. Not that we’re selling anything but marketing wise, because that’s the compulsive disorder OCD people have heard of the term, not everybody. A lot of people think they know what it is, but it’s so nuanced and and and layered and this film is fantastic.

00:23:51:00 – 00:24:23:02
Trish
And the the curriculum. We’re already starting on the on the guide. Will really get it right. And, and so we just we have to be more creative in our marketing. And I have to pound the pavement raising money constantly. And just sort of ignore the noise. Yeah. You know schools go on. Exactly. I mean, maybe it’s going to be maybe schools in red states aren’t going to look for it, and that’s too bad for them.

00:24:23:04 – 00:24:25:18
Trish
Yeah. I can’t control politics.

00:24:25:20 – 00:24:26:21
Claudia
No.

00:24:26:23 – 00:24:32:06
Trish
It’s sad. But mental health, the kids are suffering. You know.

00:24:32:08 – 00:25:01:10
Claudia
Yeah. It’s probably going to get worse. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Sad. Very sad. But on a positive note, you get creative and you continue with your work, and you are based in Washington, but you really distribute to all over of all over, all over the States. Yeah. So, I can imagine you’re very busy. You’d said in the beginning that you are going to a wellness retreat in general.

00:25:01:12 – 00:25:14:23
Claudia
Do you have specific things that you do to either energize yourself or to calm yourself down because, you know, you realize this is like taking over and I need to go inside again?

00:25:15:01 – 00:25:44:02
Trish
Yeah, I sometimes, I do need to settle down. I’m very much looking forward to the wellness retreat as a as a mentioned. I, I do meditate, I do a lot of yoga, a lot of long walks. Exercise in general is very helpful for me, for my mental health. I try to eat well and get a lot of sleep.

00:25:44:04 – 00:26:02:07
Trish
Yeah. I’m also much more social than I used to be. I was a real hermit for a long time. Yeah. Even. Even before Charlie died, I feel like I. It was hard for me to socialize because my children were going through so much.

00:26:02:10 – 00:26:03:21
Claudia

00:26:03:22 – 00:26:10:05
Trish
I didn’t want to. I couldn’t talk about it. No. So nobody wanted to hear about problems.

00:26:10:05 – 00:26:10:21
Claudia
No.

00:26:10:23 – 00:26:28:21
Trish
You know, especially in a, in a fast paced. I’m in Washington, D.C.. It’s a big city. It’s very competitive. If if you’re not talking about your children going to an Ivy League school or, you know, excelling X, y, z, it’s kind of like, what else do you got? Yeah. So. Yes. Yeah.

00:26:29:02 – 00:26:31:12
Claudia
Cause that’s so tough.

00:26:31:14 – 00:27:00:02
Trish
Yeah. So, yeah, we wanted to break the stigma around talking about mental health and not just me, but countless organizations like Glo Media have made a real dent in the stigma. People will talk. I had a young girl on on, a high school girl, on a panel discussion in October for our latest film titled Senior Night, and she was talking.

00:27:00:04 – 00:27:14:21
Trish
I said, what are some of the what are some of the mental health issues you’re seeing in your school right now? Well, I mean, they’re at the classics, you know, like social media. Social media is a classic.

00:27:15:03 – 00:27:16:23
Claudia
It’s a classic.

00:27:17:01 – 00:27:26:03
Trish
Like, okay, it wasn’t a classic when I was growing up, but the way she said it is like they talk about these things and.

00:27:26:03 – 00:27:27:22
Claudia
That is an awareness.

00:27:28:00 – 00:27:32:06
Trish
It’s an awareness and there’s no shame in talking to them.

00:27:32:08 – 00:27:45:01
Claudia
Yeah. That’s what I also notice that it is much more shame free and it has become much more normal. Yes. Situations to express you know, even kind of normal anxiety.

00:27:45:03 – 00:27:45:22
Trish
Exactly.

00:27:46:00 – 00:27:47:20
Claudia
Yeah. And, Yeah.

00:27:47:22 – 00:27:49:23
Trish
So that that’s all. It’s all.

00:27:49:23 – 00:27:56:17
Claudia
Good. It’s, you know, it’s because of a lot of hard working people, you know, and people that have a vision like you and.

00:27:56:19 – 00:28:22:23
Trish
And, you know, anxiety and depression. It comes and goes. And adolescence is such a fraught time in a, in a, in a young person’s life. And that just knowing that you can there is somebody that you can talk to. I mean, I’ve met a lot of school counselors, in school psychologists, school social workers, and most of them are pretty good people.

00:28:23:01 – 00:28:46:05
Trish
Not every school has enough of them. Yeah. That’s a problem. And not all of them are as well trained as they should be, which is where our resources come in as just a, a resource a tool. Just to help start a conversation and hopefully make somebody feel less alone about their own journey.

00:28:46:10 – 00:29:00:00
Claudia
Yeah. Yeah. But that’s you know hopeful right. I mean that’s that the awareness is there that. Yeah. People are making an effort to try and make other people feel less lonely.

00:29:00:02 – 00:29:01:07
Trish
Yes. Yes.

00:29:01:09 – 00:29:12:06
Claudia
Yes. So the next short film is coming out in the fall. And then for the next year, are you already collecting ideas or.

00:29:12:08 – 00:29:19:19
Trish
Yes. Well, great question. Because we have the, scriptwriting competition. We had so many greats.

00:29:19:23 – 00:29:22:04
Claudia
Right. You mentioned that. Yes.

00:29:22:06 – 00:29:48:20
Trish
And the scriptwriting competition was in, in and of itself an incredible, marketing tool for us. We got. So we’re doing that again. So we’ll open up another competition, excuse me, in September and, you know, hopefully get a whole new slew of scripts. I mean, some of the ones that unfortunately didn’t win because we could only have one winner.

00:29:49:01 – 00:29:49:21
Claudia
Of course, if.

00:29:49:21 – 00:29:57:17
Trish
We raised enough money this year, we can produce two. And we’ll we’ll purchase the rights from from the student writer.

00:29:57:17 – 00:30:11:01
Claudia
Yes. And just quickly tying back into, what you said in the beginning that you applied for a grant and, you were asked why? Now, what with it being being over 50.

00:30:11:02 – 00:30:33:10
Trish
I was being I was being over 50 when you founded your nonprofit. How how did that help you to, fulfill your mission? And in answering that question, I was like, that’s so weird. Why would I even then, I was thinking about it. I was like, oh, yeah, I did found it at age, you know, I was just over 50.

00:30:33:12 – 00:31:01:00
Trish
And if I hadn’t had 50 years of experience, I have a lot of experience in nonprofit organizations. I’d been with a children’s theater for 30 years. And a wife, a mother. I’d worked part time for quite a while. I just had gained so much, wisdom, knowledge and and after 50, I went into therapy. I’d never been in therapy.

00:31:01:02 – 00:31:11:17
Trish
And that opened my world to, I wouldn’t be here. I wouldn’t still be doing this if I hadn’t. Yeah. Started there. Yeah.

00:31:11:19 – 00:31:13:04
Claudia
So, so.

00:31:13:05 – 00:31:17:23
Trish
And I guess I had to be 50 years old to figure out I needed it.

00:31:18:01 – 00:31:45:17
Claudia
Well, yeah. Life and it’s journey. Life? Yes. Well, I, I really thank you so much for sharing this. It’s it’s a it’s a tough it’s a tough topic. And as you said, even though the stigma, you know, is sort of cracking open or, or is, is not so solid and stable anymore, it’s still is, you know, there’s still a lot of angst absolutely around it.

00:31:45:19 – 00:32:07:13
Claudia
And I can imagine that it is a tough fight for you sometimes, you know, to get your mission through. So I really applaud you for it and have the deepest respect for your for what you’re doing. And, so thank you and I hope you will, you will get the grant and, that we, that you will be able to produce two of the new short films.

00:32:07:19 – 00:32:14:05
Trish
That would be the goal. So thank you so much for having me, Claudia. I really appreciate it. It’s it’s been an honor.

00:32:14:07 – 00:32:27:22
Claudia
Yeah. Thank you so much. And, I will have all the information on the global media project in the show notes, so. Okay, listeners who are interested, in connecting with you will get all the information.

00:32:27:23 – 00:32:28:17
Trish
Wonderful.

00:32:28:18 – 00:32:31:22
Claudia
So thank you so much and have a wonderful retreat.

00:32:31:22 – 00:32:35:20
Trish
Thank you. Thank you. Enjoy the rest of time in Switzerland.

00:32:35:21 – 00:32:51:02
Claudia
Okay. Bye.

00:32:51:04 – 00:33:12:13
Claudia
Today was not an easy topic, and I admired Trish for openness around her own family. Challenges, numerous losses, and the unbroken spirit that prevails to educate about youth mental health.

00:33:12:15 – 00:33:30:05
Claudia
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Claudia
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